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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 962139, member: 26306"] Guess I can't quote attachments. The W$WSF stat is actually really helpful. Personally I lose a ton at NSD and make up for it in showdown pots. This is because the biggest mistake opponents still make is calling too much. So we make the big money by getting them to pay us off when they hit. As you go up I think that's supposed to change, but at 200nl my NSD winnings are still negative even over long stretches where I'm winning pretty consistently, although they're definitely higher. I've always said I think these graphs are just a style difference and negative NSD is neither bad nor good imo. For example say you have a set on the river you want paid off. You could bet 1/2 pot and get a call but instead you bet pot and get a fold. You just increased NSD winnings and decreased SD winnings but clearly made a bad bet (assuming the previous is true for his range, not just this one specific instance, that'd be being results oriented). So I try to ignore that graph and simply focus on the W$WSF stat. This way it doesn't differentiate whether you show a hand down or not, but it does differentiate between showing down a worse hand and winning without showing it down. As a rule of thumb this number should be at least 40% I've heard. It is honestly one of the best indicators I've seen with whether I'm playing and hand-reading well. Now at 50nl they fold less so I'm not sure whether a ~38% would be ok, but if your W$WSF stat is 35% or below then I think that's something to work on. The biggest thing though in the stats I quoted (which don't show up) is the won money at show down. It leads me to believe that it's just bad luck. You're either being outdrawn more or they're showing up with the top of their range. It's such a small sample and it looks like you're just running bad. I would still look to see if you think you're calling down a bit too light on rivers, as that's the alternative. But in general W$SD% is the thing that suffers when people run bad I believe. This should definitely be above 50% long-term though, typically 52-55%. [/QUOTE]

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