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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1384087, member: 23910"] I won't, and I don't. But [I]usually[/I] it's because they're crazy gamblers / drunk / stupid whatever. Plus while there's undoubtedly some games like the ones you describe where the majority of players are solid, you've gotta admit there are a lot [B]more[/B] like the ones I and others have described. And if you find yourself in one of the games you're talking about, why in hell would you want to stay in it? :p Lastly, don't think for a second that I'm knocking live poker. I learned to play live, I deal live games for a job and I play live regularly. I'm just telling it like it is, both in my experience and the experience of many others that I've discussed the issue with from around the world. [/QUOTE]