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Message: [QUOTE="Pothole, post: 901746, member: 32288"] It is a very interesting subject, the difference between "live" cards and "outs", both subjects indicate that you are all in or potentially all in, and behind. The math behind the probabality of catching a live card or hitting your outs however is entirely different. Live cards means at best you have 2 different suited cards from the player who's ahead which gives you only 6 outs, lets say the leader has Qh Qs and your holding Ad Kd, you have 2 "live" cards as they are both overcards to the leader. Your "outs" however have increased as there are so many diamonds left in the deck, you are also a fav to catch a straight. [/QUOTE]