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Message: [QUOTE="rubYtrApp, post: 3316909, member: 209527"] :jd4: I agree. I am thinking back many many years ago before the popularity of teXas holdumb, You were obligated to show your hand at the showdown . People are so worried about "oh, I dont want anybody to see my bluff" that it creates various sets of rules and confusion. If its that important to them then they shouldnt have bluffed/dared in the first place. You have plenty of opportunities to make a legitimate fold BEFORE the showdown. There was the old saying "you have to pay to see them", not only that , but it would help severely limit colluding players. WTF is "angle shooting" (rhetorical question as the term has way too broad of a meaning , as in , its too open to interpretation). You either cheat or dont cheat, its a black and white thing. [/QUOTE]