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Message: [QUOTE="Kenzie 96, post: 6182817, member: 3936"] After the flop you would have been holding 8-9-10-J, that is an up & down straight draw, not a gut shot draw. Not trying to be picky here, but you are looking at any 7 or any Q, 8 outs total. Gut shot would be 4 of 5 straight cards one of middle 3 missing, only 4 outs. 2 questions, do you really believe there is nothing going on at the table that would merit your attention more than the results of a hand you are not involved in? Do you really believe mid level not suited connectors are so potentially powerful that you have to agonize over folding them pre flop? You did not mention position although that would certainly need to factor into your decision. Paying attention to the play of your opponents still in the hand is much more important than focusing on what ifs. [/QUOTE]