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Message: [QUOTE="nevadanick, post: 999889, member: 27547"] Not only 'unfair advantage', it is cheating. Of course there are those who believe 'anything goes' online. Agreed, they are NOT the same. That's one good reason I will never deposit online and I DO save my cash for live games here at the BnM casinos and home games. I sit at a table to see WHO I am playing. I'm also entitled to my opinion about what constitutes 'fair play'. Recording stats? Fine. Didn't Stars recently rule that Sharkscope [B]active[/B] while playing was prohibited? There's a reason for that. It's an unfair advantage over other players. But even online, if I sit at a 9 man table, I expect to be playing 9 people, not 9 people plus two on the phone with that game up on their screen. This may also be an explanation to those who post about losing their BR's when they don't realize they are playing 9 $1/2 players at the table and a $3/6 and $5/10 player on the phone. OK, mom and pop or son and dad sit at one computer and 'talk' about what to do - fine. 'Coach' at your computer looking over your shoulder - that's part of online - but on the phone, AIM? No. Taken from Stars site: [URL]http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/[/URL] in part: "[I]There is a range of things that a player can do to improve his chances in a poker game. For instance, he can play a lot and gain experience, or he can read a book about poker. Both of these techniques are clearly appropriate. At the other end of the spectrum, he can work in collusion with another player, sharing information about hole cards and teaming up against other players. [B]This is clearly cheating[/B][/I]." 10/11 people at a 9 seat table, imo, is cheating. Plain and simple. Want a coach? Review your HH's with her/him and analyze. Check my stats offline. Then come back to a table (alone) with your improved skills and knowledge. You wrote: "A group is only as good as the best member." The 'group' is supposed to be the 9 seated at that table. I don't expect my comments will change the fact that there are those who will use AIM and Skype, etc, but it may open a few eyes to what they may really be playing against when they put up their cash online. [/QUOTE]

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