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Message: [QUOTE="Vfranks, post: 1715416, member: 56954"] I also seem to run into this type of situation in local 1/2nlh games.. I play it just like I would .01c/.02c online pretty much, as it seems very similar(but this is just my own opinion, I would say the play is more like a ftp freeroll imo) ). I agree with grafkarow.. raise more than usual, as I have seen people raise 6xbb with any sooted hand with a face card, or just any face card( k2o, J4o, q6o, etc..). It seems a lot of people are just there to gamble... so just play your game, don't start playing their game, get your money in good and value bet when you have it. Yes you are gonna lose to some donkey crap sometimes, but just try to get it in good as often as possible. I've seen people play to the river with some pretty bad hands.. 2nd 3rd and even 4th pair, and even call river bets with missed draws. yes it might seem impossible at times to come ahead, but imo if you play pretty tight and play your position, and don't overvalue drawing hands or ax hands, etc and you should come out ahead. It seems that most don't know what a donk bet is, and whenever they hit..whether they were the initial pfr or not, they bet out. Of course watch the table and see what kinda hands they are showing down, whether they call down light or not..etc.. you really want this type of play, but have to understand you need something to go to showdown with. edit: i posted this before i saw you last response... I don't wanna sound like a dumbass here(if that's eve possible), but how well do you know the people you are playing against? Is it self dealt or a permanent dealer? I mean your probably on a bad run of cards, but make sure you know that nothing is fishy going on.. as I have played at a few places where I could swear ppl were soft playing/working together it seemed.. but again I had no proof(and was the type of place where you better have some backup if you want to start accusing, because these weren't the type you would wanna get in a confrontation with, at least as a scrawny white kid from the burbs playing in the hood like me lol..and even then you probably don't wanna start making accusations)....why i don't play anywhere like that anymore. The last time i played that cash game I found out that the dealer and 2 of the players were all brothers... so I was like hrmmm, I think im done with this game... only played there maybe 4 times, I think I broke even in all, but just to much doubt in the back of my mind... most people I heard later on talk about this game said they were scared to play because if they won they felt like they were gonna get robbed on the way out... which i doubt would happen, but i guess you never know... DAMMNIT VA why did you have to get rid of the legit, but not fully legal(even though city police were there watching over things), charity poker rooms here in portsmouth va.... Kinda tipsy right now(just got back from the free poker league at the bar)... so hope this makes some sorta sense..lol [/QUOTE]

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