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Message: [QUOTE="Shwiggler, post: 1895449, member: 69943"] I totally get where you are coming from here. I'm in the US and have been playing on Bovada at 50NL. You have to play basic, boring ABC poker to make any money on this site now, which gets tedious and boring. You can no longer play the player on the site because a) you can't track who the player is and b) almost no one folds pre-flop and will call down anything. This can be good if you get the cards, but if not your screwed. There will be no bluffing, and it's really hard to determine how to value bet profitably. I'm not saying it can't be profitable to play these games, but it's definitely not the same intellectual game that it use to be. [/QUOTE]