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Message: [QUOTE="Kirbs69, post: 7312442, member: 1038536"] I wasn't saying you said that poker isn't gambling. I just said that because poker is gambling in the end of the day. What I was going back at you was the 70% part. Where did you get 70% from 4 hands in 100hands... Also playing aggressively. That's not skills either. Just because you take the initiative it doesn't mean it's skills. Unless you're actually bankrolled into your stakes. Then that's not a viable option to do. I bet you. If you weren't bankrolled into your games. You wouldn't be making them +ev moves. Because you know. You'd be rinsed. Instead you'd be playing poker like it was supposed to be. Which is to protect your stack. Obviously in a tournament setting you're incentivized to play aggressively. So there are things to account for. But what I said still stands. [/QUOTE]