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Message: [QUOTE="x2486, post: 1647345, member: 72408"] If Phil can see his cards and choose whether to shove or fold, and his opponent has to call, then yes, it's an extremely biased coin flip. Where's the fun in that? The prop bet I proposed comes down to a contest of whether Phil's psychological/mental game can defeat an average player's mathematical one. I think I read somewhere that it's the skills in playing the opponent rather than just the cards that separate the pro's from the mere mortals. A lot of the "rigged" crowd seems to come from players who say they do well live, but then suck at online play so it must be rigged against them. I suspect this stems from them being able to make up for weak math skills with better than average psychological ones. psychological skills don't play nearly as big a part in online play, and the math skills of their opponents are probably better than they're used to, so they're suddenly at a big disadvantage and can't understand why. [/QUOTE]