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Message: [QUOTE="KristaK, post: 5338513, member: 337332"] hi hi been much research about the controversy: skill versus variance (politically correct term for luck) when i commence study poker i review various research studies on this subject is all dependent on amount of hands... less hands, more luck involved more hands, skill come into equation greater at least 1500 poker hands need be played then skill makes a impact in same environment makes sense huh? if i play 50 hands against say Hugh or ChicoPaw, is possible i victorius if i play 2000 hands against, i lose big time, as they have lots more skill than me i even purchase a book, how to make more luck, by Dr. Stephen Simpson, mind coach of Chris Moorman, Liv Boree and other world class athletes (so far no help me much lol) right now i reading a book in german, named "if i win its skill - if you win its luck" i think that is the best answer to your question LieDust? [/QUOTE]