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Message: [QUOTE="Poker_Mike, post: 4701581, member: 268319"] Yup - several ways to deal with this...and you can try them all...I don't even know them all... One way is to just let the thoughts happen - sort of exhaust your intelligent mind out. This can take a long time...but how many times can you go over your upcoming calendar or grocery list? lol Another way is to focus intensely on something....a sound, a light, a thought, etc. until you have excluded everything from your mind. You probably already do this with poker. You can see intense concentration in the eyes of final tabelists. I believe they have already been focused and meditating on the game for hours. These are all tools - and probably eventually a crutch to get to the meditative state. Find something that works for you and enjoy! Good luck again ! [/QUOTE]