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[QUOTE="c9h13no3, post: 1191753, member: 15450"]
One thing odd about playing 200bb's deep is that you're effectively getting close to the odds required to set mine here on the turn.  There are two 8's in the deck for about a 19:1 shot at your draw to a set.  You're getting 3:1.  So when you hit your set, you need to make roughly 16 times that for your call to be correct.  In this hand, you risked $4 to win $94.7, or 23.6:1.  Even if you know he has kings, you call!

Now, things get more complicated because he still has some equity when you hit a set, and sometimes he won't stack off.  But there are 2 key points I want to drive home with this post:

1) If you're stacking off with 1 pair 200bb's deep, you better have a DAMN GOOD REASON to do so.  And I don't mean "oh, villain is fishy, and sorta bluffy, so I can call with an overpair here."

2) A well concealed draw to the nuts or near nuts, even if you only have 3-4 outs, can still be a profitable draw to make against opponents who can't fold 1 pair hands when you're playing 200bb's deep.
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