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Message: [QUOTE="RamdeeBen, post: 1813267, member: 71146"] What's the general opinion on variance at micro stake games? I hear people say at the highest games possible, your edge decreases and variance is huge. This I guess is for either MTT/SNG/CASH as it's all the same in terms of the players in general. The other evening for example, I played a game and you see all kinds of ridiculous stuff happen in them (MTT'S), people love an Ace and will stack, people love a Gamble etc.. Some guy 3bet some other guy, then get shoved on and he called 45blinds. The shover showed up with Aces, the other relatively deep player called with 7,8os and hit a straight. I said [B]"Wow...any particular reason you called, surely you can't ever think he's shoving worse here?"[/B] The response I got didn't surprise me, I've seen it before [B]"It's only a dollar, I don't get care"[/B] or I've seen responses like [B]"HAHA, yeah just to suck out it was worth the call"[/B] when someone whines at them for example. This led me to the conclusion that when people say variance gets worse as you move up, I do in a way kind of see how but then I can't help but wonder if it's actually possible for higher stakes to be more variance filled based on some reasons below. People don't "think" if you raise pre flop with A,J for example and a,x calls..and an Ace hits..quite often enough they will stack you and think there ace is good. Varience plays a part when the hit two pair, or vice versa all in preflop the see an Ace so will go all in vs your A,K for example. You can't bluff at micros very often, people will call down with anything. People won't fold if you 3bet pre flop, they seem to want to protect their chips if you 3bet with A,K so will snap call your shove with Q,J. The same applies with so many different but similar situations people can't/won't fold there one pair on a dangerous board and hit two pair, or trips or runner/runner straight/flush etc.. It's situations like this that make variance worse, so I wonder what others think if the grind is longer/harder in a micro limits because the variance is bigger. This isn't a whine thread or anything, I've always wondered this and got some time to write it up today, so appreciate some thoughts on it. [/QUOTE]

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