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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 3648805, member: 23910"] OK so like I said, it's been a few years since I watched this movie. Just rewatched that hand now and realised I'd forgotten a couple of important points. Will stick this in spoiler tags just in case anyone wants to avoid knowing the details 10 years later :P [SPOILER]First of all here's the action from the hand: SB: LC (Robert Duval) BB: Trucker Hat guy BTN: Huck (Eric Bana) Huck raise to 40k, LC raise 100k, Trucker Hat folds, Huck call F (7h 5d 2c): LC bet 300k, Huck raise to 600k, LC call 300k T (2s): LC bet 500k, Huck call 500k R (8h): LC all in (over 650k), Huck call (all in) 650k So first thing I'd forgotten: I [i]thought[/i] Huck had planned to chip dump from the start of the hand. Rewatching it, I don't think he decided to do that until the showdown. So up until that point, assume he was playing the hand to win. And the second thing I'd forgotten; this hand was [B]all[/B] about levelling and misdirection between two players who knew each other very well. The whole "just call" / "what do you mean 'just call'" thing, their history, it's all more important than what two ordinary and unacquainted players may or may not do in this spot. In fact they play off the idea of what you "should" do with AA in the same spot - he knows his JC thinks that way, so he's trying to misdirect him. Also, rewatching it I suspect (and mileage may vary here) that when JC pushed, he was almost expecting to be doubling Huck up, and he seemed pretty OK with that - it's possible (and maybe even likely) that he was trying to chip dump to his son here. He certainly seems surprised to have won the pot. Anywho, mileage obviously varies. You can question whether Huck choosing to dump his chips to his Dad was realistic or not, but I think as far as the way the hand played out goes it's fine. [/SPOILER] My problem with the Bond hand wasn't that they all got all in with those hands BTW - it was the utterly ridiculous one in three-hundred-squillion flush-boat-boat-straight flush setup for it. But like I said, that's not even my least-favourite hand in that movie: that'd be the one where he goes bust the first time to some other improbable hand, then tries to justify rebuying by saying "I got outplayed and I'm sad about it, but now I know his tell". When a [i]real[/i] poker player would be saying "that's a standard beat, I played the hand correctly, buy me back in dammit!" :P [/QUOTE]

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