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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1358863, member: 23910"] Wrong. Pretty much every set of rules in common use in poker allow for the hand to be retrieved from the muck if the cards can be clearly, positively identified [B]and[/B] it's in the interest of fairness. The dealer or floor person judges what's fair and when to apply the rule. That's not to say it applies in this case - it's usually reserved for angle shooting cases. But it can be done. FWIW Ivey claims he didn't say anything because he didn't [I]know[/I] that he mucked a flush. And your second rule is just plain wrong, as Grossberger has pointed out. If you see a mistake in progress, point it out. Someone might return the favour for you one day. [/QUOTE]