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Message: [QUOTE="dj11, post: 1970400, member: 13851"] I wonder at your statement that you do not want to give up the entertainment value of the game, vs you essentially saying you are willing to grind. Grind does not equate with entertainment. If you stay on the entertainment side of the equation, then realistically, you may miss your goals far more often than you meet those goals, but you will have had a lot of fun doing it, with little stress. From the tone of your post, I can't help but think that as soon as you set those goals, your entertainment days are over, and you have created a work schedule. This is not to suggest you abandon those goals, rather to be ware of the impending changes to your attitude about the game. [/QUOTE]