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Message: [QUOTE="Poker Orifice, post: 1971356, member: 33113"] Instead of making these calculations based on what isn't happening. Why not put the time into learning how to get better. Focus on learning how to play optimally, & the money will look after itself. Then once you've learned how to play optimally (& continue to work on it) you'll be able to see if it's worth it. Typically ITM rate for winning player in 9man STT-SNG is ~40%. (if it matters). Seeing the JTs hand raised pre to 4x over multiple limpers while OOP, I think you might want to focus your efforts on learning how to play SNG's, rather than calculating perceived future profits that aren't happening. (btw, BB is OOP... even if you happen to think it isn't). -40% is highly probably to be your True ROI if you really play like the HH you've posted on forum. [/QUOTE]