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Message: [QUOTE="feitr, post: 1171866, member: 34106"] Well you can raise cbets/float flops on occasion if you miss. Personally, i'd be inclined to isoloate with a hand like 79s on the button vs limpers, but if you want to keep it simple you can still do it with a fairly wide range (although better than a hand like 79s). And no there wouldn't be much poitn in 3Bing AT or 77 from the button as they tend to be pretty easy to play in position in a single raised pot and if you 3B them you are almost always going to be playing vs a 3B flatting range that crushes your hand (ie. the value mainly comes from villain's tendencies to fold to 3Bs not from the value of your hand). I wouldn't worry too much about the fold to 3B stat at 50nl unless you are getting 3B alot, as i doubt there is too much light 3Bing going on at those stakes/full ring. [/QUOTE]