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Message: [QUOTE="nevadanick, post: 1021350, member: 27547"] Don't know if you ever found out (nothing in this thread about it). The 'button' is the [B]dealer[/B] for that hand. The 'bubble' is the last position [B]before[/B] payouts start. A tourney pays 1st to 18th, you are in position #19 based on chip count - [B]you[/B] are 'on the bubble'. Never can get rid of all the lotto players. That's life - and poker. In the higher buy-ins, the bingo-kids thin out earlier. In a lot of the $215 range buy-ins, many players got there by playing lotto/bingo strategy in cheap or FR satellites. It won't change their quality of play. Yes, a lot of variables go into play on any all-in preflop, the biggest one being that you have nothing but hole cards to bet. You are 'Betting the Farm' on 2/7th's of a poker hand. The comment I enjoy seeing most is the "I got all my chips in the middle with the best hand (pre-flop)". Even if the 'best hand' part were true in every case, it does not work well in MTT's. Ring games are another story, but that's not the point of this thread. OP is discussing MTT's. During the course of any MTT, you will usually get dealt monster hole cards several or numerous times. In a bigger filed, let's say 10 times, and all them are 75/25 odds to win against random cards and even disregard multi-way pots that go way under 75% favs. The all-in/preflop 'odds' players are also betting the farm that their favs [B]WILL[/B] still dominate by the river - [B]100% of the time[/B]. (discount the non-all-in hands that don't cost you your tourney life). Sometimes you get backed into a corner - position, short-stacked, bubble, time constraints, chip bullys, etc, etc. What we also see is the ONE post about the ONE hand that DIDN'T hold up. As a player, IF you are going to play those barn-burning all-in preflops, understand that you CANNOT win every one of them, everytime you play. Taking down 'best hand preflop' 100% of the time is VERY RARE. Those rare cases make 'heaters' and 'lukboxes'. Maybe take another look at your MTT strategies ... ?? [/QUOTE]

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