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Message: [QUOTE="NCfoldem, post: 1519602, member: 67240"] My last post on the topic: Chris says that you can start from nothing and move up, etc. Wrong. [I][B]Chris Ferguson[/B][/I] can start with nothing and move up, etc. He had such a difficult time doing it that he proved that for the rest of us (non Chris Fergusons) it would be nearly impossible, so why even try? The experiment itself proved to me and most others who are not in denial, (the denial people will always mold things to fit their needs), that for the vast majority, it can't be done. If this was his intention, he succeeded. [/QUOTE]