New episodes of Poker After Dark begin tonight on NBC!

What I want to see is....does Tom Dwan leave the long cash game rich again? That guy plays so strange, yet aggressive, that I am sometimes surprised he wins at all. But it seems his strategy works cuz I always see him leave ahead. And he runs so good....If I had half his luck I'd be happy

I watch this every morning, its OK but there wasnt alot of action going on

Last night Dwan re-raised preflop then called the no name Antonius friend's all-in with pocket J's. No name cant pair his AKoff and re-buys near the end of the night. No disrespect to the high stake player, but he's obviously from Europe...? and I can't remember his name not to mention attempt to spell it. Haha. It's up in the thread. Take a look. I'm too lazy to edit this thing.

I don't think I've seen anything strange from Dwan. It's kind of hard to tell when they're playing this side game of reds and blacks. Maybe I'm missing something but I believe the goal is the first to flop all the same color and match them with their hole card wins 50k.

It also adds to Lederer's tightness imo. He sits there being raised around b/c of the side game. He explained that he lost the side game before and refuses to play it this week or ever again for that matter.

Thanks for info, bout time the got some new episodes.

I love that show those guys are great to watch, I like when they call with squat douche!

wagon596 said:

I think I prefer the cash games over the winner take all. The game play seems more real. But, I do like to watch it no matter what they are playing. Just my thoughts.
C'ya'll

Click to expand...

Not sure what you mean by 'seems more real'? The Winner Take All is just a SNG format, where winner takes all (<< seems pretty typical of a WTA SNG to me??)

I do enjoy cash games because it is much more exciting to watch there is more action and people aren't super quite like more tournament style games. There are side bets going on all the time. Everyone seems like they are having a good time even those that are stuck like 100k don't care.

wsorbust said:

Last night Dwan re-raised preflop then called the no name Antonius friend's all-in with pocket J's. No name cant pair his AKoff and re-buys near the end of the night. No disrespect to the high stake player, but he's obviously from Europe...? and I can't remember his name not to mention attempt to spell it. Haha. It's up in the thread. Take a look. I'm too lazy to edit this thing.

I don't think I've seen anything strange from Dwan. It's kind of hard to tell when they're playing this side game of reds and blacks. Maybe I'm missing something but I believe the goal is the first to flop all the same color and match them with their hole card wins 50k.

It also adds to Lederer's tightness imo. He sits there being raised around b/c of the side game. He explained that he lost the side game before and refuses to play it this week or ever again for that matter.

Click to expand...

The side game/prop bet is based on the concept of Red vs Black. Each person picks a color, and the winner is determined by the dominant color on the flop. Its always going to be at least 2/3 red or black. Patrick and Phil were each putting up 50k for a winning total of 100k per hand the night I was watching. This does make the real game they are playing seem insignificant and boring though.

Ilihari "Ziigmund" Sahamies is hardly a "no-namer" either. Go on Full Tilt during prime time and see the amount of money this guy not only has, but is willing to gamble with.

Thanks for the information and the link. The line-up has been more impressive in the past.

MsDonkDonk said:

Thanks for the information and the link. The line-up has been more impressive in the past.

Click to expand...

WHAT? You're doing it wrong imo.....Who would you rather see play? Zigmund Ivey, Antonius, and Durrrrrr at one table is as good as it gets.

This has been a great series to watch, but I wish there was a way to tune out the side chatter during hands. Sometimes it is interesting, but more times its hard to hear what is going on.

Ilihari "Ziigmund" Sahamies

Click to expand...

Thanks for explaining the red vs. black. Interesting.

Haha. I realize he's not exactly a no name, but he's surely not as nearly as popular a household name as Dwan, Ivey or anyone else sitting at the table. He plays high stakes on full tilt but I would have to ask how he gets his seat at the table. It's the first time I've heard of his real name and have seen his face. Does that make him a no-namer?

I go on full tilt all the time looking for pros playing and can't find hardly anything most of the time. granted, I don't play on there much but still, go on Stars during the weekend or after work hours and you'll find multiple wsop main event champs in ring games.

Give me a couple weeks or months before I learn "Ilihari Sahamies" and can spell it wihout googling it up. Maybe it's like when Kournikova came into tennis and no one could say it right not to mention spell it. It could be that it's just because it's such an uncommon name to an American like myself. It's fairly hard to remember Ziigmund off the top of my head not to mention his real name, that's all I can tell ya.

The director's cut wasn't bad either. Durr's really good at explaining his thought process.

New week starting Sept 21st: Magnificent 6
Phil Hellmuth, Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer, Phil Ivey, Doyle Brunson and Daniel Negreanu

was a pretty sick cash game, as i said, lederer didnt belong there. this week's will be pretty interesting though. would like to see hellmuth being outplayed by ivey and whining bout it. heh.

Last new week of PAD til December:
USA Vs Italy

NBC’s Poker After Dark has featured international weeks before, but never a week where three players from one country squared off against three players from another. That’s exactly what happens this week, however, as Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer, and Erick Lindgren will represent the United States against three of Italy’s finest in Marco Traniello, Max Pescatori, and Dario Minieri. Each will put up $20,000 and compete for the $120,000 winner-take-all first prize.

Thanks for the break down of who is on what shows.... I really like the cash games..
Take care

heres a ratings winner line up

lee ann .....and any 5 pros