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Message: [QUOTE="Timmah120, post: 1748442, member: 59036"] I personally believe that skill will conquer over luck. Yes, everyone gets lucky once in awhile; it does help. But, the player that truly learns to master the odds and make the best decisions will be a winner in the long run. The casual poker player plays for fun with money they can afford to lose. Some of us take the game more seriously; we want to win in the long run, not the short term. We read the books, analyze our hands, and constantly ask ourselves 'how could I have played that hand better?' These "macho" types you are focusing on appear, at first glance, to be "winners," but in reality, they lose more than they make. That's just the way the game works. [/QUOTE]