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Message: [QUOTE="TheNoob, post: 928160, member: 39108"] My problem isn't so much the math, but understanding how you apply it here. The 2.67/1 odds (I whipped out my calculator at the table and made everyone wait) are my pot odds to make this call (the $60 call with the $160 pot). So I want greater than (rounding to) 3:1 odds that I will hit my hand. And this is hit a hand that beats what I figure the villian has? (that persons range) The post flop two way straight draw example is 8 outs of 47 unseen cards is 8/47 or 5.8:1? So that 5.8:1 is what you compare to the 3:1 pot odds to make your decision to call? But that's eight outs twice, and now I have no idea. [/QUOTE]