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Message: [QUOTE="Rumme1, post: 2966533, member: 182441"] As usual, claims about poker are made in very loose terms { like the above} Tell us what is the meaning of " sufficiently large volume of poker playing " ? Its a vague term, with no real meaning , kinda like someone being asked, " HOW LONG HAVE YOU PLAYED POKER" , and the guy replies...I played poker a long time. Such statements do not give any real exact data to anaylize. I do know this for a FACT. Some pros make the false claim that everyone who plays poker/ gambles, over the longterm, has the exact same amount of bad luck and good luck, as all other players. This really annoys me because in my 33 years of playing every week, I know it is a flat out lie. I will say it once again , A very luck player, that is just average, will beat a very unlucky player that is above average....and they can beat them on a very constant basis. Ive been thru the streaks...Many years ago I had a good luck run that lasted a few years.....then it stopped..and then I went on a bad luck run that last many more years then the good luck run. The only thing that saved me from becoming a losing player, was MONEY MANAGEMENT. I was constantly losing to loose fish , who played way to many hands, called big bets to catch miracle cards , would bet wrongly..and these fish would regularly chase me down or I was just getting cold cards for hours at each session and could not get wrapped up in big pots, to try and get the money from the fish at the table. LUCK MEANS MUCH MORE TO POKER/GAMBLING, THEN MOST PROS WILL EVER ADMIT . Why ? because its human nature for people who win money in gambling/ poker, to want to imply that their winnings had nothing to do with luck, and more to do with their skills. Its a complimentary thing, and we all like to be complimented , instead of thinking we win in poker due to good luck swings. Someone mentioned that its true that we all have the exact same amount of luck, over the INFINITE long term....I also disagree with that, because it is a theory which can never be proven, because none of us live a infinite amount of time. I find it silly to claim something is 100% true, when that idea is merely a theory, which has never been proven, and can never be proven. I play in a big game in my area , once a week with a min buy in of $300..pot limit....Some of the pots we have are $2000 or more { full table of 11 players} This game has been going on for over 3 years now, and guess what, the biggest winner in this game, is easily 1 of the worst players at the table. This guy is AWFUL....he bets badly, he makes to many stupid calls chasing hands that are not paying pot odds, etc....he doesnt have a clue how to calculate odds on a flop, he doesnt have a good memory of what cards people folded ,etc....and yet this guy is the big winner due to only ONE factor. His continual good luck at this one specific game. He used to play in 2 other local games, but he did not have good luck at those games and win at them , so he quit playing them after a few years . For some reason, this one local game, is his game, when it comes to continual good luck. This is something Ive noticed with my own play . There were some games that I ran very bad at locally, but there was one game that only ran for 4 months, which I had incredible good luck at , and was the big winner . Out of the 5 local games , I have only had great luck, in one of those games, which unfortunately busted up...the other local games are a brutal grind for me, where I must often sit at the table and get cold cards for 3-4 hours and not even win 1 hand. The only thing that keeps me from being a big loser in these bad luck games, is my money management. [/QUOTE]

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