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Message: [QUOTE="mrmonkey, post: 1764143, member: 72028"] buster, maximizing your edges within the rules of the game against your opponents is what playing winning poker is all about. If you do not use every tool and advantage legally available to you to maximize your edge you are not playing optimal poker. What you're arguing is kind of like saying people who read poker books and basic strategy are cheating because they have an advantage over people who just play any two cards. Basic hand value knowledge and knowledge of odds give me a tremendous advantage over someone who has never sat at a NLHE table... should I be banned from the table because of this? Here's the thing... a bad poker player with a HUD is still a bad player. They are likely not very observant to begin with, and as a result they likely interpret their HUD statistics incorrectly and make poor plays all over the place. A good player without a HUD is still a good player, but probably not playing optimally if multitabling. A good player WITH a HUD probably has a slight edge over good players without HUDs, particularly when multitabling. Speaking of multitabling, this is the primary reason why HUDs are used in the first place. One way to maximize your edge and returns is to multitable. Let's say I beat 10nl for a 6bb/100 winrate. I can probably do this without a HUD on one table no problem, and for simple math let's say I get about 100 hands per hour in this way. This equates to $1.20/hr. Now with a HUD, I can multitable 8 tables with similar observational capacity of one table without a HUD. I also get less bored this way, keeping me more on my A game, and I still take notes and make mental observations about my opponents which no HUD statistic can show me. My winrate of 6bb/100 stays the same, only now I get in 800 hands per hour. My hourly suddenly jumps to $9.60/hr, and with the extra rakeback/hr and site bonuses is probably closer to $12/hr... or about 10x the amount I'd be making by single tabling without a HUD. If you think you have the mental capacity to observe your opponents while 8-tabling without a HUD, be my guest. [/QUOTE]

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