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Message: [QUOTE="titans4ever, post: 424131, member: 2843"] It is the ones who play outside the box that infuriate the ones who do. They are the ones who you can't figure out why they do what they do but still take your money. I agree that the math is a large part of online games. You can do well just playing the math part of the game if all you do is sit in front of your computer. Math is only a part of live games. It sounds like you play alot live like I do. Live, I could care less what my cards are as much as who is in the hand. You get caught with your hands in the cookie jar live and it is a long walk to the rail vs to the frig to grab another beer before you reload or find another table online. To reply to your reasoning: 1) Fish defined - 10 second memory players that don't recall what you or anyone else did the last hand. Fancy moves (shiny bait) don't work because they don't know what they are looking at. 2) Calling someone a fish only makes you feel better when they have taken all your money when they out chased you or you just made them go broke on a bad call. WE ALL make bad calls sooner or later so somewhere out there someone thinks YOU are a fish. 3) Schooled players do well against other schooled player. Most players are not patient enough to wait for that one shining moment to stomp on the unschooled or unconventional players. The one thing that reading does not teach is patience. When they finally do hit that big hand they are usually only winning back the money the "fish" has already taken from them. 4) Tells are important and can be a big part of the live game and can help you win some big hands. They can also can make you look like fish/donkey when wrong so beware. You make a strange call based on a read or tell and you will look stupid when you miss but a genius when you hit. So don't be quick to label people quickly at a table. [/QUOTE]

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