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Message: [QUOTE="OnyxPanther, post: 1537965, member: 70844"] tpb221 ty. It feels like my thinking is wrong! hahahah but miraclechipmunk's post helped me think of a better way to explain why I am thinking like this. To me hand1 is a fold hand for obvious dead flop reasons. When it comes to hand2 in my mind it registers as 'same cards and now I have a chance to see 10 board cards instead of the 1st 5 with the same cards'. I think now that it could be over analytical exaggerated thinking like this (maybe caused from long periods of playing) that causes average to good tourny players to lose positions and momentum while playing. I say this because the numbers and correlations between 2 hands like this is not included in my strategy when I sit to play a tournament. I try to play T.A.G. until I have a comfortable lead at the table, and then I will open up occasionally to explore marginal connectors table odds opportunities. I just need to face the facts. 1. The odds in the 1st hand 2nd hand or 3rd hand are going to be based on my opponent/s play and the board! lol 2. I should be focusing on cost vs. odds of the hand I AM IN! 'not dazed in an obsolete hand that is over'. 3. I WOULD NEED A MATH WIZARD TO CALCULATE THE ODDS OF 1 HAND LET ALONE 2 HANDS AND THE VARIANCE ODDS OF THOSE 2 HANDS AND HOW THEY CORRESPOND WITH EACH OTHER. We need 'The Professor', Mr. Lederer for the math involved in my post here. He could solve this complexity in seconds, I bet, in terms of the mathematical values. Perhaps I will try to pass this on to the pros and get an elite view on whether or not inter-hand odd dynamics have a role in solid play. I think my resolution to the problem is most likely the correct and accurate approach to a situation like this. I would like to know if I calculated my odds of winning the 2nd hand correctly at 17%. Allin preflop, early position with 78os at a full 9-man table if someone here reading this actually knows how to calculate the odds and percentages of poker hands. I would appreciate it very much if you could tell me if I am correct and if not please tell me the correct chance I have of winning this hand regardless of how many at the table call. TY and I appologize if i jarred anyone else brain besides mine with this odds calculating fiasco ;) [/QUOTE]

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