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Message: [QUOTE="Poker Orifice, post: 1301668, member: 33113"] Sometimes I get angry when I get it in with the best of it (by a longshot) and villain makes the call & sucks out on me, lol... even though this should actually in fact make me very happy. Thing is.. I play mostly tournaments (actually... alot of them). I also sometimes get angry when villain insists the call is 'good'... even though it's blatantly obvious that it's 'bad'.... but I want it to be 'bad'.. so why get upset? I'm not there to teach them how to play (but if they watched... they may learn something.... even if it's learning how they don't want to particularly play similiarly to the way I do, LOL,... I don't want them all getting it with the best of it do I? ). Emotions are by far my biggest leak though... but usually ('usually'... ie. most of the time) don't let it negatively affect my play... unless of course I've already been KO'd.... .then it's ok to be p o'd... for a couple minutes anyways... LOL. Is it okay to call them a fish or a donk?.. absolutely not. I don't want them to get to be a better player do I?? (<<<< one of the worst things one could do on a table imo). As far as your questions here go.... they are all pretty much situational. ie... #2.. this is VERY situational. You'd have to give the table situation to be able to give a decent answer to this.. (ie. sometimes it'd be the correct play to shove over in hopes of picking up a sidepot &/or just getting the other guy out of the hand... & if the one SS is very short who's allin.... if you are the chipleader you might even want that guy still on the table... so you can continue to exploit the situation by pounding on the blinds of the med.-sized stacks). In other spots it could be a TERRIBLE play to make..... my 'guess' is... either villain doesn't realize what is a good play... OR.. he does and the shove over was terrible. Either way.. he shouldn't let you know about it...but am guessing you doubled/tripled up the shortstack which negatively impacted his game. #3... that's your choice. Most players lie about it anyways.... might be a good oppurtunity to do so. Sometimes I will say.. "Nice fold"... to make villain feel good about their play. People don't seem to mind losing money to you when they like you. In other spots... I will lie and say I had 72o, attempting to tilt villain... especially if I think it'd be to my advantage to do so depending upon who they are, what the situation/table/tourney dynamics are, and how they play. GL on the tables!! None of your statements seem like 'bad poker etiquette' to me... .perhaps 'bad play'.. .but not bad etiquette. For someone to complain about not partaking in implicit collusion (ie. checking down to KO shortstack)... this would be poor etiquette (although in many spots it is considered the thing to do... and 'is' the thing to do... but of course it's poker... .so it always 'depends', lol). [/QUOTE]

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