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Message: [QUOTE="IntenseHeat, post: 2243018, member: 92488"] It does seem like a lot of people are confusing stalling and slow playing their hand with actual slowrolling. As dmorris said, when you know you have the nutz and are the last to act after your opponent has bet on the river and you take your sweet time before calling, to let you opponent sweat it out or think that you might fold, before you call and show the best hand, it is considered a slowroll. An example of this would be when you have a something like a set of Jacks on a board with no overcards, no straight or flush draws, and no pairs. You know the best hand your opponent could possibly have is a smaller set. You have position on him, so he is first to act, and goes all-in. You knew you had the best hand the second the river card was turned over. There is no way that you are folding. But you don't call immediately. You let him sweat it out while your play clock and a portion of your time bank tick away before putting them out of their misery. Whlile I agree, and definitely consider this to be a slowroll, I think the more traditional use of the term slowroll refers to someone hesitating before turning the best hand over at showdown. Using the same at example with the set of Jacks that you know is best, your opponent bets. You call. They show their hand, but you don't immediately show yours. While a long pause before turning your hand over would, of course, be considered a slowroll, it's not so much the length of the pause that makes it a slowroll so much as the intent. You might only pause ever so briefly, but during that pause, do something like let out an audible groan of dissapointment, slump your shoulders or hang your head as if in defeat before turning your hand over. I've seen players go so far as to fake like they are about to throw their cards to the dealer, only to pull them back and turn them over. The intention would be to deceive your opponent into thinking that they had won the pot before revealing the winning hand. It's pretty much the poker equivalent of saying, "You win... SIKE!", which is a pretty dickish move. Of course, because the computer turns each player's cards over automatically once the action is complete, a lot of players feel like it is not possible to slowroll someone on-line. But we have already stated that hesitating to act with the best hand when the final action is on you can be considered a slowroll as well. Again, it's the intention behind it that makes it such a bad breach of etiquette, whether is to deceive your opponent or to make them sweat. [/QUOTE]

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