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Message: [QUOTE="ChuckTs, post: 659279, member: 467"] Something I've thought about a little lately, especially considering I've been playing more FL where you have to refer to odds a little more frequently. Stoxtrader mentions it in his book; the only example I can really think of is the one that FP pointed out in the thread about a video of one of my FL sessions: [URL]https://www.cardschat.com/f53/5-1-fl-session-no-audio-98217/[/URL] Example hand: PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) [B]Preflop:[/B] Hero is SB with 4[IMG]http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif[/IMG], 7[IMG]http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif[/IMG]. UTG calls, [COLOR=#666666][I]2 folds[/I][/COLOR], Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. [B]Flop:[/B] (4 SB) J[IMG]http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif[/IMG], 9[IMG]http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif[/IMG], 7[IMG]http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif[/IMG] [COLOR=#0000ff](4 players)[/COLOR] Hero checks, BB checks, [COLOR=#cc3333]UTG bets[/COLOR], Button calls, Hero folds FP suggests calling since we've got about 6 outs (two 7s, three 6s and a backdoor FD for ~1 out) and we're getting good enough odds to do so. This isn't the best example, but the problem I'm talking about is when we have more players in a pot (two in this ex), we have a greater chance of being behind. In this case we could be drawing even slimmer than 6 outs since someone else could have a set or a bigger two pair which would crush any 7 or 4 we could hit. I mean we could be up against T8d here and be nearly dead. So what do we do in situations like this (again, my 74s hand isn't the best example)? Do we count our outs as partial outs or something or do we just play it straight forward and assume our 6 outs are clean and just call? Don't know exactly where I'm going with this; it's a little hard to put in words right now for me. Got ritalin flowing through my veins and it isn't exactly helping either. [/QUOTE]

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