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Message: [QUOTE="tony4680, post: 2162304, member: 100688"] There was a WPT final table (i think maybe heads up or down to three) where this guy was trying to bluff or bet big with nothing and announced a bet while grabbing a big stack stack but before the chips could go in the guy behind with a monster announced all in and the original raiser was allowed to simply min bet and dump his hand. Intentions are subjective. Bottom line is what is announced or what is bet in one fluid motion are what can be held accountable. Selbst prob felt like shit but cates should know better and lucked out. If patrick was so adamant about being all in he could have reraised... at that point he knew he was getting called and prob behind so he opted for a flop. Can't blame him but at the same time you can't bitch after the fact if you chose not to reraise realizing you were prob in a coinflip pre given info you shouldn't of had to begin with [/QUOTE]