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Message: [QUOTE="ibsiegel, post: 2030287, member: 92992"] ok i get i have an 80% chance at winning .... pretty good odds Here is a quote from the other thread..... ssbn743 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 171 Quote: Originally Posted by ibsiegel as far as the 44 hand goes the QQ shoved he didnt raise/call a shove he shoved and if you notice that isnt what i did i called the shove to my raise. I wouldnt play the hand i posted any different in either position. I wish i would have won but i didnt initiate the all in the utg did. Further more that is why i didnt just shove because this exact result happens more often then not. The exact same result happens 16% of the time – not more often than not! how can anyone say that this will happen 16% of the time. That is a definite statement. There is no way someone can say a certain result will happen X%. the Probabilty may be 16% but to say that is set in stone isnt reality... [/QUOTE]