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Message: [QUOTE="poettic1, post: 414977, member: 7096"] to me it is totally dependant on what game it is cash or tourney, semi pro or fish. because in a tourney pot odds don't come into affect nearly as much as people seem to think, setting odds to a guy in a tourney is statistically wrong . while you will win x amount over time where x amount is (odds/ potsize/the fraction of pot it'll cost you) that's in chips with no monetary value. that means you still have to play to be ITM. so making to pot odds call over and over again will eventually get you set(loss) in a tourney.so allot of players care not about the pot odds but more about price(value of pot/their current stack/bet size) and phase of tourney it is. seems string him along with a smudged correct value is better here than an all out assult. where as in a cash game pot odds is basically all you have so with no protection value no spot to fight for, i underprice them let them play into me. no one is gonna fold a $20 bet into a $200 pot with a draw right? reason i do this is i want them in the hand and more in the pot. this way if i become the 1/3 the make money, meh. and if i'm not there is more money in the pot then there would be if i made it wrong for them to call. these are statistics again scued if i think the players is a math player in the tourney i push because a math player should never call. and in the cash game i smudge the line a lil over. most meth players make this call against their will because it is close enough. then it's meh or more money for me. with a fish in a tourney i give them credit for almost every draw unless my stack is huge. reason is while ill win 2/3 of the time i promise that i'll face the situation more than 3 times if i want ITM. this means that even stacked pushed: i win, i win, i loose. stastically i will be busted out more tourneys in this situation then i won't be. ill still make a bet, but in no way is it the mathmatical bet i make vs. the players who think math. in a cash game i want them all in with their stack, never will they get odds so i have have a better crack at the stack this way than playing the hand(even fish know when they miss). hope it helps [/QUOTE]

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