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Message: [QUOTE="diabloblanco, post: 331603, member: 4734"] I guess I am one of the "want to be cool for liking someone that evryone else hates" people. I have like Hellmuth since I got interested in watching poker on ESPN. Do I think he carries his tantrums a bit far, sure, sometimes. But have any of you ever played for the kind of money that is generally on the line when he complains about a bad beat? No? OK then. So who's to say that your demeanor wouldn't change as well. Love him or hate him he has done a lot for poker as far as pro endorsement deals (Oakley), and his record speaks for itself. Most cashes at WSOP with 46 (tie with TJ Cloutier) 9 WSOP bracelets, was a tying record until yesterday when Chan won #10 Second only to Raymer in monies won on the WSOP at 3.6 million 2 WSOP Main Event wins Winner of the innaugral NBC NLHE Challenge 2005 Several of the largest European titles won Lucrative endorsement deals (a first in poker) paving the way for the new crop of talent to cash in And the list can go on and on. Todd Brunson, Johnny Chan, and others like to bag on Phil because they are, IMO, jealous of all the media attention he gets and that because of it he doesn't have to risk his ass in a 10,000/20,000 limit game to stay rich like the syndicate members do. They grind out 250,000 or a half-million playing cards all the while risking losing as much and more and he doesn't have to take any of that risk, and is as rich or moreso than anyone in the syndicate aside from Barry Greenstein (and he may have him covered as well). People like to hate what they are jealous of. And PH is a prime example. He has had rediculous success and has been a shrewed enough businessman that he has ventured into all kinds of poker related and non related deals and has made a mountain of money doing it. He isn't the typical degenerate gambler who wins a wsop bracelet and has to be staked for upcomming events because he lost all the cash playing craps. He has avoided many of the pitfalls of gambling success (except ego) and he should be given his due credit. [/QUOTE]

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