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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1549050, member: 23910"] Remember though, he enters a [I]lot[/I] of tournaments. None of the other players near him on the leaderboard play anywhere near as many WSOP events as Hellmuth does - imagine how many Doyle or Ivey or even Chan would have if they'd played in the same number. Granted, in Doyle's case quite a few of his bracelets came in the good old days when fields were small so that probably offsets it. But it's not the case for someone like Ivey. Obviously he's a pretty good NLHE donkament player. But IMO it's only because of sheer volume, not any particular skill advantage over his peers, that he's at the top of the bracelet leaderboard. Would everyone rave about Hellmuth the same way if Ivey or Doyle had 13-14 bracelets apiece to their names? Or would they talk about him in respectful but unexaggerated tones like they do someone like Eric Seidel (who's a much better player than Hellmuth, IMO). [/QUOTE]