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[QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1840050, member: 23910"]
I disagree on that first point - the fact that Ivey can beat [i]every[/i] game isn't the same as saying he's "good because he's good".

Take the other players you mentioned - Dwan, Mercier and Lamb.  They're excellent NLHE and PLO players and they're certainly aggressive (Dwan in particular may be even more so than Ivey in big bet games).  But they don't play every game - which is why Ivey was willing to offer Dwan such insane odds on the HORSE cash game challenge last year that got killed by Black Friday (and may not have even happened anyway).

Actually, I think that challenge really sums it up: Ivey was laying Dwan something like 25:1 on a long-term series of HORSE cash games and it wasn't a snapcall for Dwan.  He acknowledged that Ivey is a [B]huge[/B] favourite in all those games.

The question that was asked at the top of the thread was why so many people consider Phil Ivey to be the best poker player in the world.  Poker is more than just NLHE and PLO - if you asked who the best NLHE player is in the world it'd probably be a much closer decision and while Ivey would certainly be near the top, he won't necessarily be number one on everybody's lists.  But when you broaden it to poker in general, which encompasses all games and all formats, the list of potential number ones gets a lot smaller until Ivey is about the only one left.

FWIW if I had to pick a runner up it'd be Barry Greenstein.
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