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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1841075, member: 23910"] Those are some solid results in mixed game tournaments, sure. Don't ignore the fact though that Dwan was entering [I]every[/I] tournament in a desperate bid to ship a big prop bet, so it was inevitable he was going to run deep in something. And I'm not saying these guys can't play mixed games - I'm just saying that NLHE and PLO are far and away their [B]best[/B] games. They're arguably among the top players in the world in big bet games, but when it comes to all the others they wouldn't even be close. Still good, but nowhere near the best. (You missed a triple-draw final table for Mercier in 2011, BTW - he finished 6th) Ivey didn't play the WSOP this year, but take his previous two years: two bracelets in 2009 (2-7NL and O8/Stud8) and another one in 2010 (HORSE). Where the guys mentioned above make final tables, Ivey closes and [I]wins[/I] them. Put simply, he's still leagues ahead of Lamb, Mercier, Dwan et al when it comes to games outside of NLHE and PLO [B]and they would almost certainly tell you that themselves.[/B] Dwan at the very least has said it in relation to the HORSE cash game challenge I mentioned above. As to what makes Ivey so good at all these games, I don't claim to be smart enough or have anywhere near enough information to give a definitive answer - and the reality is there just isn't a single, neat and tidy answer. It'll be a multitude of factors all coming together. I've read comments from a lot of top players to the effect that Ivey adjusts to his opponents better than anyone out there, and that would certainly be a big part of it. I know Barry Greenstein has commented before that Ivey spends a [I]lot[/I] of time studying his opponents. Those are just two things though, and the reality is that he'll be the player who puts [B]all[/B] the required skills together best: reading people, putting them on ranges, bet sizing, controlled aggression, adjusting, learning and developing away from the table, and more besides. The thing that makes him the best of the best is that he does [B]everything[/B] well and he doesn't really have any leaks (when it comes to poker, at least - craps may be a different story). [/QUOTE]

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