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Message: [QUOTE="Big_Rudy, post: 1952501, member: 73333"] Wow, thanks for expanding on my admittedly rudimentary response here, MB. Couldn't have said it better myself;) Just to kind-of wrap thinks up..... I agree with pretty-much all your post above. I really don't think think you can over-rate just how important math is to a serious poker player. However, I think 4th's comment that (paraphrasing here, obv) once you have learned the basic math to the game, you know as much about the game as anyone is ludicrous. [/QUOTE]