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Message: [QUOTE="DS3, post: 6171815, member: 407846"] I really like Ivey. But the problem with this type of thread lies in a few directions. The first is that there is no metric to indisputably compare top players. One false argument is most money 'officially' made. Even then that does not include the considerable buy-ins involved which often produces losses. And it is a clueless measure when many of the top players pay cash games in private. But lets face it, the real issue with these threads is what they really are is a popularity contest. Who's you favorite player? Nothing wrong with that but dressing it up as a 'serious' debate is not really worthwhile. And for what it is worth, many would argue Stu Ungar was potentially the best player ever, and no doubt Phil Ivey would likely agree as many other pro's have done in the past. [/QUOTE]