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Message: [QUOTE="ScottishMatt, post: 2170110, member: 92892"] It's certainly not silly in this instance. It's not like Ivey's thought process here is different from anyone else who makes the same move. I particularly like Max's play here though, some players jump the gun and raise in his spot. Edit: just seen your post above me Sam. TBH I couldn't see either of the other two folding top two pair. I'm not all that into tournaments but I would never be doing so in a cash game, especially not against as aggressive an opponent as Ivey. Max wasn't really flatting it for deception I don't think. By cold 3Betting he folds out everything that isn't in a cooler vs cooler situation against him. My plan in his place would be to call the raise OTF and X/J any non spade turn, I assume he was thinking along similar lines. Ivey's play could be analysed fully but in short - A shove in this spot is the best value-oriented move he can make. [/QUOTE]