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Message: [QUOTE="dan, post: 1358244, member: 62705"] what is a pair of 4s good for 1 thing another 4 if it does not show up what then I love how after we think we know what his hand range is after our bad play pays off the other 80% of the time we just gave money away the only way the 4s are proffitable is if there were callers ahead of you with expected callers after you so that you were getting the proper price to try to hit the set thats not saying I would not have done exactly what you did it just would have been a bad choice over the long haul.Poker is a game of long term decisions and to be proffitable we need to make good ones as often as possible. ps i said some of that to remind myself [/QUOTE]