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Message: [QUOTE="John bruce, post: 4910927, member: 344377"] [b]Luck[/b] The luck is hitting cards on the board or holding them. You can't win long term if you are card dead most of it. Can you still win a pot, yes. But long term if you play with bad cards you will lose. If you steal a few blinds eventually you get caught. Even get in a few bluffs. The skill is recognizing where you stand in the hand and how you sell yourself. Vice versa how well the other people can receive you. Laying down a monster is a skill alone that makes people great. Making them believe you have the monster is a skill. Does it work on everyone no. That's why people get beat in a hand by inexperienced players. They are playing there cards not the big presentation you are presenting. Money maker is a good example. No one can win a big tourney without some major luck factor. [/QUOTE]