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Message: [QUOTE="sedlacekj, post: 5057069, member: 385229"] Poker involves both skill and chance. They are not equally applicable to the same part of the game. Chance is involved in the distribution of cards for your hand, those of the villains, and also for the flop/turn/river. However the probability math for any particular card showing up is solid and you need skill to use this. Your hand's equity relative to your opponent's is chance, but ranges for player positions are knowable, and skill is needed to apply those ranges to your calculations. The way players play their specific hands is not chance however unpredictable, and once the pattern is observed, skill is needed to have this knowledge help you. Calculated pot odds is a skill, and using it with hand equity is also a skill. Knowing when players are bluffing is another skill. [/QUOTE]