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Message: [QUOTE="ph_il, post: 6201789, member: 508"] Like anything there will be scammers and there will be legit players trying to help. If you were seeking a coach, you'd rather seek one that comes from a legitimate source. The thing with poker is it's constantly evolving. What worked then, doesn't work now. What works now, might not work next year. Does anyone need coaching? It would depend on what you're trying to achieve. If you only play micro-stakes mtts for fun, then you probably don't need in depth coaching to beat the weaker players. If you want to constantly move up in stakes and get to the highest buy-ins, then you might need coaching eventually. You might not think you do but, consider this, even professional players seek coaching from other players/regs at certain stakes. Every pro you listed has very likely sought out some type of coaching in one way or another. BenCB, probably one of the best online high stakes mtt players today does something like 2 hours of coaching a day or week (I forget). Again, it would depend on your goal in poker but if you think you can move up in stakes without any help along the way, you're probably going to get crushed at one level or another. It might not be necessary for you or a concern of yours at the moment and that's fine. It doesn't mean [legit] coaching is bad or BS, maybe it's just not necessary at the moment. Also, legit poker coaches have nothing to gain by BSing anyone. They make more money off of players continuing their coaching session, as well as setting up players to improve their game. More players improve their game, word gets around and more players seek coaching. You scam 1 or 2 people, word gets around, and no one signs up anymore. So, from a business standpoint, it makes no sense for a legit coach to BS anyone because they make no money doing so. Finally, nothing is guaranteed and nobody can ever say what's going to happen in every situation when you play, that's impossible. All coaching can do is provide you the tools and strategy to improve your game. From their experiences, they can tell you the best options for scenarios A, B, and C and what you should do in situations X, Y, and Z to maximize ev, and everything like that...but they can't play for you. So, unless someone can fully utilize what they're learning, then I agree coaching would be useless. But that's the fault of the player, not the coach. [/QUOTE]

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