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[QUOTE="detroitjunkie, post: 2995387, member: 61462"]
Yea, if you muck your own cards you have no right to ask for anything -for most rule books that is - this is for cash or tourneys.

One thing to add.  If there is NO betting on the river, whoever is first to act by button rule is required to show first.  So if you are in cutoff seat against UTG, and no bet on river, and you KNOW you have UTG beat but want to see his cards - let him show first because he has to (this is not slow rolling so no worries there), otherwise you may lose the opportunity if he mucks after you show.

As a floor, I would allow someone who shows their hand to ask to see another that was mucked - if and only if the dealer has not touched the cards to the muck, and only once per level.  I am not wasting tourney clock time fishing cards out of a muck constantly.  If said player keeps asking to see peoples hands I may actually issue that player a warning.  In a cash game things are a bit different.

We use a mix of TDA & Roberts Rules (because we are a charity room) and all other issues fall into WSOP rule (which allows for ANYONE dealt into a hand the ability to ask to see a mucked hand at showdown - the kicker is that if the player still in at showdown is the one to ask, the mucked cards are live - as of 2015, may change for 2016 but doubt it)
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