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Message: [QUOTE="spranger, post: 1010783, member: 45760"] Poker IS gambling. Although unlike most games and other situations, the edge is different for almost everyone. Some people have almost no chance to come out on top in the long run, some have a huge chance and make tons of money, but they were never guaranteed that money, they gambled to gain it. And yes believe it or not, I guarantee there has been a fish or two who have become set for life from poker. (Jamie Gold, that Asian guy at the Main Event, Moneymaker) Even casinos are gambling. I'm sure some of you have heard about the casino in the 60's or 70's where a man put down $1000 on roulette (he was either super rich back then, or highly intoxicated, becuase this is huge for back then) on a single number, he hit the number and got paid $35000, he let it ride and hit the number again, getting paid 1.225 million, he let it ride and hit it again, the casino shut down that night. The casino was gambling and LOST although the probability of that happening was 1/38 x 1/38 x 1/38 = 1/54,872. NO AMOUNT OF EDGE can stop something from being gambling, not even poker. And walking across the street is of course gambling, has someone in the past been hit by a bus walking across the street? Heck yes, it happened to them, it could happen to you, you gambler. Stocks are gambling, Pete Rose was gambling, that Ref in the NBA was gambling even though he could control the outcome of the game himself directly. The fact is that if poker wasn't gambling, there would be no debate about who was the best in the world. It would be clear, they would have never lost. As Phil Hellmuth says "If it weren't for luck, I'd win them all!" Sounds like a man who's gambling to me. He has a huge edge over the long run, but he's still a gamblin' man. Gambling is everywhere, we all do it, and long live Poker! :pcguru: [/QUOTE]

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