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Message: [QUOTE="RogueRivered, post: 1018533, member: 45593"] I feel that if your expected value is negative and you keep playing, no matter what the game, then you are gambling. If you're expected value is positive, then that is no gamble, only a calculated risk. The stock market is a calculated risk over time; day-trading may be more of a gamble. Certainly casinos are in the gambling business but they are not the ones doing the gambling. Their customers are the gamblers; the casinos are making a statistically sure-thing profit -- definitely not a gamble. A small edge is all it takes to turn a gamble into a sure thing. Just make sure you use good bankroll management to overcome short-term variance. [/QUOTE]