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Message: [QUOTE="rwilson, post: 995787, member: 32897"] I think there's a fine line between gambling and investment. Personally I don't think poker is gambling, but for a lot of people it probably is. It's like many people have said so far.. is buying shares in the stock market gambling? If you buy shares; on any given day, it's nearly impossible to know whether those shares will rise or fall, cause short term most shares prices are highly volatile. Although over the long run, the general trend is that your shares will rise in value. So people call it investment. Another example, for those who talk about it being a game of chance that people bet on.. think about casinos. Casinos are the largest professional gamblers in the world.. but do people ever refer to casinos as being gamblers themselves? No, cause in the long run the casino will always win. They make wagers and play games in such a way that the odds are usually slightly in their favour. They're still betting on "uncertain outcomes" and on any given day/night a casino can and does lose. You could walk in with 10 million dollars tomorrow, place it on black on the roulette table (assuming the casino will hold your bet!), double up and walk out with $20 million.. and the casino loses $10 million and is left chasing their tail for the next day, week, month, whatever. What I'm saying is, over the short run, luck can make or break a casino just like it can the punters that sit down at their tables... But in the long run they'll always win. Are they referred to as gamblers? no. Poker is no different. Many players these days have the skill and knowledge to play in such a way that in the long run they will make money. They consistently bet when the odds are in their favour and they make better decisions than average players. In the long run when luck/chance evens out, they'll have more money than they started with. Are they still gamblers or are they investing their money? Poker can definitely be played in a manner which shouldn't be considered gambling (IMO). The sheer number of people that play poker for a living proves that. They're not professionally lucky. It's a game of skill that involves luck.. but what game doesn't involve luck? By nature a lot of gamblers play poker, cause you can still win in poker with basically no knowledge of how to play. But in the long run the more skilled players will win more than the less skilled players, just like in soccer, football, tennis, etc.. So no.. I don't think poker is gambling ;) [/QUOTE]

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