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Message: [QUOTE="TheNoobie, post: 2284607, member: 110710"] Zveri666 is absolutely right. It might not be the same case, like the slot machines, but it still is gambling. People are trying to prove that wrong, because they dont want to grow up gamblers, and they are trying to change their oppinion and the oppinion of their friends, trying to prove them wrong. I like poker, and I play it for fun. I understand that it IS gambling, but I dont care that much. Not only placing a bet, when you are not guaranteed to have that money back ( UNLESS you are playing the nuts, but if you are a respected player, you will know that you cannot play only on these cases ). You bet money on 2 pairs, can you guarantee that your opponent doesnt hold a pocketpair and flops a set somewhere along the way? You cant. Its the same for tournament games, and cash games. You pay the buy-in of a tournament, but youre not sure you get into the money. Just play the game that you love, who does care that it is gambling? I dont. Everything that involves money and bets is gambling. Dont try to change that, accept it. Just because there is a skill portion involved, doesnt mean you still dont gamble. You say that it is different for live games with professional players. When Dwan makes a bluff and someone catches him - he loses his money ( Not happening very often, but when it does he loses money ). So its the same thing both online and live. Its just a different game, when you play live with pros, because there is more thinking and observation involved, but that doesnt mean that its not gambling for sure. Ask the players that pay 215 dollar buy-in on the Sunday million and dont get into the money. If its not gambling, where did their money go? [/QUOTE]

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